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		<title>Morning Roundup &#8211; Job Losses, Infopia Sold, Shopping.com eBay Ads</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Infopia Sold to Versata &#8211; Ina Steiner broke this one last night (btw, if you don&#8217;t subscribe to her emails, do so now). OK, everyone has been waiting for this one for about a year. Maybe 2. Infopia, Infopia, Infopia. I don&#8217;t know where to even start. The company has been through a number of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=1360&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y10/m10/i08/s01">Infopia Sold to Versata</a> &#8211; Ina Steiner broke this one last night (btw, if you don&#8217;t subscribe to her emails, <a href="http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/">do so now</a>).  OK, everyone has been waiting for this one for about a year.  Maybe 2.  Infopia, Infopia, Infopia.  I don&#8217;t know where to even start.  The company has been through a number of makeovers since I first got to know the team at their 2007 Summit.  I&#8217;ve been lucky enough to meet some great people at the company, but it&#8217;s now a totally different beast with a completely different team.  When I saw the CEO speak at a recent PeSA Summit, it was all about analytics and nothing about being an ecommerce platform (ECP) or eBay selling platform.  In Silicon Valley speak, the company had to pivot (at least once) as going after the eBay sellers wasn&#8217;t cutting it.  I&#8217;d actually love to write up a full history of these guys, so I&#8217;ll reach out to them soon.  </p>
<p>-Shopping.com, please get rid of the hideous &#8216;Sponsored Listings&#8217; from eBay littering your site.  Or take down all the paid merchant listings and just put up eBay ads.<br />
<a href="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/ebay_on_shopping.png"><img src="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/ebay_on_shopping.png?w=300&#038;h=148" alt="" title="ebay on shopping" width="300" height="148" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1361" /></a></p>
<p>-<a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/shopzillar-and-google-partner-to-bring-bizrater-retailer-ratings-and-reviews-to-google-seller-ratings-2010-09-29?reflink=MW_news_stmp">Google using BizRate ratings</a> (among others).  Yes, everyone knows that BizRate is one of the sources for Google&#8217;s ratings, but it&#8217;s nice to see a press release on the subject (from Sept. 29).  Also nice to see more activity recently on the <a href="http://www.bizrateinsights.com/">BizRate Insights</a> blog.</p>
<p>-<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/business/economy/09jobs.html?_r=1&amp;hp=&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;adxnnlx=1286546424-019AiIgGRTf7/x9zodRDSA">95K Job cuts in September</a>.  Analysts got this one wrong.  Doesn&#8217;t bode well for the holiday shopping season.  From the NYTimes: “September’s U.S. payroll report adds to the evidence that the recovery is losing what little forward momentum it had,” said Paul Ashworth, senior United States economist at Capital Economics. </p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t put all your eggs in the Google Shopping Basket</title>
		<link>http://comparisonengines.com/2009/07/01/dont-put-all-your-eggs-in-the-google-shopping-basket/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Google Product Search/Google Base]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re submitting an optimized data feed to Google Shopping, you can get an amazing amount of traffic and sales.  But just as organic placement can fluctuate because of algorithmic changes, your product listings on Google Shopping might fluctuate because of similar algorithmic changes or placement tests.  The old standard of Onebox results showing up [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=985&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re submitting an optimized data feed to Google Shopping, you can get an amazing amount of traffic and sales.  But just as organic placement can fluctuate because of algorithmic changes, your product listings on Google Shopping might fluctuate because of similar algorithmic changes or placement tests.  The old standard of Onebox results showing up below the sponsored ads and above the organic listings is not a guarantee anymore. You might find the Onebox listings in a different form, halfway down the page, <del datetime="2009-07-18T01:01:10+00:00">or even in the AdWords listings</del> [<strong>Any product results showing up in AdWords listings are called Product Ads.  These are not related to Onebox listings in any way.</strong>] (will share screenshots of these variations soon).</p>
<p>With all these tests that Google is running, your traffic will most likely go up and down and up and down and up and down.  Frustrating when you&#8217;re a marketer trying to meet your numbers.  That&#8217;s why you can&#8217;t put all your eggs in one basket &#8211; be it Google Shopping, NexTag, Shopzilla, Amazon Product Ads, or PriceGrabber.</p>
<p>Brian Mark of <a href="http://www.toolbarn.com">Toolbarn</a> had a great slide in a SES presentation years ago that showed how he used the shopping engines to make up for a decline in traffic/sales after a site change knocked all his listings out of Google&#8217;s organic results.  If he didn&#8217;t have the shopping engine listings, he would have been in serious trouble.  In the same vein, as Google Shopping will continue to play around with its listings, merchants should think about listing on other top shopping engines.  Yes, Google Shopping might be at the top of the list in terms of traffic and revenue (and of course, ROI), but NexTag, PriceGrabber, Shopzilla, and Shopping.com can provide a steady stream of traffic and revenue in the face of uncertainty from Google Shopping.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll release some recent SingleFeed numbers discussing aggregate  traffic/revenue #s for the shopping engines soon, but let&#8217;s just say that listing on additional top engines can significantly boost results.  Yes, you&#8217;ll have to think about PPC costs and not all products will work on all shopping engines, but if you&#8217;re smart about your data feed marketing efforts (reporting/analytics!, you can succeed</p>
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		<title>Shopping.com&#8217;s Related Products</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Shopping.com]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse the image sizing issue. I&#8217;m trying out a new system and it&#8217;s not pretty. For now, you can just click on the image to see the screenshot in all its glory. Shopping.com is now displaying related items on product pages. And as opposed to some shopping engines which seem to just be sticking up [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=771&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Excuse the image sizing issue.  I&#8217;m trying out a new system and it&#8217;s not pretty.  For now, you can just click on the image to see the screenshot in all its glory.</em></p>
<p>Shopping.com is now displaying related items on product pages.  And as opposed to some shopping engines which seem to just be sticking up links for SEO purposes, Shopping.com has a more elegant (although obviously simple) integration:</p>
<p><a href='http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_52.png'><img src="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_52.png?w=470" alt="Shopping.com Feature" title="Shopping.com Related Products" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-867" width="470"></a></p>
<p>Shopzilla has related searches:<br />
<a href='http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_53.png'><img src="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_53.png?w=470" alt="Shopzilla Product Page" title="Shopzilla Related Searches" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-868" width="470"></a></p>
<p>Yahoo! Shopping has &#8216;shoppers who viewed this item also viewed&#8230;&#8217;  I think this is the best integration:<br />
<a href='http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_54.png'><img src="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_54.png?w=470" alt="Yahoo! Shopping customers who bought this" title="Yahoo! Shopping Related Searchs" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-869" width="470"></a></p>
<p>Smarter has Similar Products:<br />
<a href='http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_55.png'><img src="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_55.png?w=470" alt="" title="Smarter Similar Products" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-870" width="470"></a></p>
<p>Pronto has Related Products:<br />
<a href='http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_56.png'><img src="http://comparisonengines.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screenhunter_56.png?w=470" alt="" title="Pronto Related Products" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-871" width="470"></a></p>
<p>And of course, <a href="http://www.thefind.com">TheFind</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.like.com">Like.com</a> provide much richer &#8216;related products&#8217; integration.</p>
<p>Become, NexTag, Google Product Search, PriceGrabber, and SortPrice do not have a related products section.</p>
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		<title>Shopping.com Trying</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While Shopping.com (SDC) execs blatantly denied my claims that there were any problems on their end going into the holiday shopping season of 2007, it seems that the company has since modified it&#8217;s position. First, Josh Silverman, SDC&#8217;s outgoing CEO said in the February Merchant Support Newsletter, &#8220;As our traffic increased in the past quarter, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=749&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Shopping.com (SDC) execs <a href="http://www.comparisonengines.com/2007/11/16/shoppingcom-there-are-always-two-sides-to-a-story/">blatantly denied my claims that there were any problems on their end going into the holiday shopping season of 2007</a>, it seems that the company has since modified it&#8217;s position.</p>
<p>First, Josh Silverman, <a href="http://www.comparisonengines.com/2008/02/25/andre-haddad-to-be-shoppingcom-ceo/">SDC&#8217;s outgoing CEO</a> said in the February Merchant Support Newsletter, &#8220;As our traffic increased in the past quarter, it placed some unexpected strains on our systems.&#8221;  That&#8217;s a far cry from what I was told when SDC cut off new advertisers.</p>
<p>And now after taking down the Merchant Account Center (MAC) 2 times for a total of 14hrs in the last week (according to the notifications), SDC has launched a public Help Center.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://view.exacttarget.com/?j=fe55157473620c78711c&#038;m=fef41174726c07&#038;ls=fdf01270766c067a73137875&#038;l=fe8c16727c61077470&#038;s=fdf715727562007872137172&#038;ju=fe25157770610074771578">full announcement is here</a>.  This is an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>Previously, our help tab was integrated into the Merchant Account Center and only provided access to solutions in our database.  Now, you can search the knowledge Base as well as interact with other merchants under our supervision in our new Beta Merchant Support Forums! There, you can post optimization information, bidding statistics or tips, discuss your marketplace, or troubleshoot a technical issue in a public space so others can take advantage of your experience.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also changed the process of how to submit a case.  All cases will be submitted through the knowledge base page.  Additionally, once you detail your issue, keywords in your inquiry&#8217;s subject and body will be used to find solutions related to your issue in case you couldn&#8217;t manually find what you were looking for!   With this feature, our Account Managers hope to provide you faster, more detailed responses to questions about your performance rather than focusing on How-To&#8217;s or other technical issues.</p>
<p>With this announcement, we are pleased to redefine our services to you as well as decrease our current advertised response time from 7 days to 3!
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<p>It&#8217;s nice to see Shopping.com making the effort to help it&#8217;s merchants.  The Help Center is public and can be accessed <a href="http://merchantsupport.shopping.com/page">here</a>.</p>
<p>Seems that Shopping.com is now making use of <a href="http://www.salesforce.com/products/service-support/self-service/case-resolution.jsp">SalesForce&#8217;s web-to-case management system</a> which allows merchants to log their own cases, get suggested solutions, and have the cases be routed directly to an account manager.  Coincidentally, <a href="http://www.singlefeed.com">SingleFeed</a> is implementing the exact same system this week, although I&#8217;d say the parallels end there.</p>
<p>My #1 <a href="http://www.comparisonengines.com/2008/01/09/2008-shopping-engine-resolutions/">suggested resolution for the shopping engines for 2008</a> was to provide more transparency.  While I meant this in a number of ways (and left it open to interpretation), one way was to open up a bit and tell merchants what&#8217;s going on.  At SingleFeed we screw up every once in a while, but our account managers are transparent about the process.  That openness doesn&#8217;t solve everything, but it goes a long way in building trust.</p>
<p>Shopping.com is going the right direction with this Help Center.  I was shocked (in a good way) to see that they had opened up <a href="http://merchantsupport.shopping.com/forum">public forums</a>.  While the threads will be under &#8216;[SDC's] supervision&#8217;, the initial <del datetime="2008-03-20T19:11:54+00:00">three</del> <ins datetime="2008-03-20T19:11:54+00:00">four</ins> posts have been negative and SDC hasn&#8217;t removed them:</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;I am being charged hundreds of dollars per month although the product has been removed a while ago!!!  Please look into this matter and provide contact informations! This is an urgent matter.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;We too are being billed for products that have been removed OVER 5 months ago. I contacted support before this new support area was setup with no resolution.</p>
<p>We tracked down two sites offering the outdated feeds www.racecarpartysupplies.com and www.napkinholders.net both run by the same company. There are more but I&#8217;m unable to locate them.</p>
<p>Our frustration of not getting any support on this matter is also likely to drive us to abandon Shopping.com as well.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve been pulling my hair out for 3 days now trying to get my products to map properly and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get any help. No contact email or phone number. I&#8217;m ready to pull the account.</p></blockquote>
<p><ins datetime="2008-03-20T19:11:54+00:00"><br />
<blockquote>Anyone else notice that for many weeks now the Bidding Tool not only fails to display all the bids? Instead, for example, the bidding tool truncates the bid list (see Health and Beauty for example) so that it lists only about 43 bids from 1-43. The list is missing more than 600 bidders and bids. It is not particularly useful as it is.</p></blockquote>
<p></ins></p>
<p>So far, so good.  Look forward to see more of these improvements.</p>
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		<title>Andre Haddad to be Shopping.com CEO</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the press release, current Shopping.com CEO, Josh Silverman, is moving to sister company Skype, where he&#8217;ll be CEO. Andre Haddad, currently a SVP at eBay, will become Shopping.com&#8217;s new CEO. Haddad joined eBay in 2001 after eBay acquired iBazar, a European online marketplace he co-founded. I believe Haddad will be the 4th Shopping.com [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=743&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080225/wr_nm/ebay_skype_dc_1">press release</a>, current Shopping.com CEO, Josh Silverman, is moving to sister company Skype, where he&#8217;ll be CEO.</p>
<p>Andre Haddad, currently a SVP at eBay, will become Shopping.com&#8217;s new CEO.  Haddad joined eBay in 2001 after eBay acquired iBazar, a European online marketplace he co-founded.</p>
<p>I believe Haddad will be the 4th Shopping.com (after Dan Ciporin, Lorrie Norrington, and Josh Silverman) since <del datetime="2008-02-26T03:47:44+00:00">starting</del> I started covering the shopping industry less than 3 years ago.</p>
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		<title>eBay Down Almost 15% YTD, Earnings Call Tomorrow</title>
		<link>http://comparisonengines.com/2008/01/22/ebay-down-almost-15-ytd-earnings-call-tomorrow/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I first started talking about recession worries in September during my session at Shop.org. While the many blank stares in the room didn&#8217;t get it, stocks have been butchered of late because of recession fears. One of the worst hit in the ecommerce/online marketing group has been eBay, which hit a new 52wk low today [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=731&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first started talking about recession worries in September during my session at Shop.org.  While the many blank stares in the room didn&#8217;t get it, stocks have been butchered of late because of recession fears.</p>
<p>One of the worst hit in the ecommerce/online marketing group has been <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ebay">eBay</a>, which hit a new <ins datetime="2008-01-23T08:58:41+00:00">52wk</ins> low today of 27.13 and is down almost 15% Year To Date (YTD).  <a href="http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=gsic">GSIC</a>, down almost 20% YTD is the only other ecommerce related stock that I follow which has fared worse than eBay.</p>
<p>While Scot Wingo, the eBay pundit, points to Bob Peck&#8217;s &#8216;<a href="http://ebaystrategies.blogs.com/ebay_strategies/2008/01/peck-swings-for.html">swing for the fences</a>&#8216; analysis, I&#8217;m more keen on Jeetil Patel/Herman Leung&#8217;s (Deutsche Bank) analysis:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We maintain our SELL investment rating on shares of eBay. In our opinion, challenging buyer demand, escalating seller economics, lack of reinvestment (to position for future growth), near declines in transaction volumes and potential operating margin pressures all represent key challenges at eBay. Upcoming fee changes may place additional pressure on operating margins and growth, while consumer spending is likely to be lackluster.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I also think Jordan Rohan&#8217;s (RBC Capital) comments about spin-offs/sales are interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It may be early to call for a bottom on EBAY shares, in our view. The company may soon lower expectations for 2008 and could be pondering a significant change in business strategy. We view the potential retirement of Meg Whitman as a slight positive, as the pace of strategic change could accelerate after her departure. What would make us more positive: 1) management change, 2) resetting of financial expectations, 3) strategic refocus to reflect current reality, possibly including a PayPal spin-off, Skype sale, and layoffs, and 4) further correction in analyst sentiment. We have reduced our 2008 estimates to reflect the uncertain near-term outlook.</p></blockquote>
<p>Meg Whitman announced yesterday that <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/22/ebay-meg-whitman-tech-inter-cx_sm_0122ebay.html?partner=yahootix">she&#8217;s leaving</a>.  eBay&#8217;s earnings call is on tap for tomorrow after the market close.  If you&#8217;re in the ecommerce industry, <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/cc/0/88130.html">pay attention to the call</a>.</p>
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		<title>Shopping.com Encouraging Users to Click on AdSense Ads</title>
		<link>http://comparisonengines.com/2007/12/21/shoppingcom-encouraging-users-to-click-on-adsense-ads/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last weekend Shopping.com encouraged its users to click on AdSense ads. Here are examples for a couple searches. Notice the big SEE SITE buttons next to the ads: According to my read of the Google&#8217;s AdSense Policy, Shopping.com&#8217;s actions are in violation of that policy: In order to ensure a good experience for users and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=722&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last weekend Shopping.com encouraged its users to click on AdSense ads.</p>
<p>Here are examples for a couple searches.  Notice the big SEE SITE buttons next to the ads:</p>
<p><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2126717525_521750d757.jpg" alt="Shopping.com AdSense" width="470" height="227"/></p>
<p><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2127493468_164689a9bb.jpg" alt="Shopping.com AdSense" width="470" height="296"/></p>
<p>According to my read of the <a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=48182">Google&rsquo;s AdSense Policy</a>, Shopping.com&rsquo;s actions are in violation of that policy:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>In  order to ensure a good experience for users and advertisers, publishers  may not request that users click the ads on their sites or rely on  deceptive implementation methods to obtain clicks. Publishers  participating in the AdSense program:</p>
<p> * May not encourage  users to click the Google ads by using phrases such as &ldquo;click the ads,&rdquo;  &ldquo;support us,&rdquo; &ldquo;visit these links,&rdquo; or other similar language<br />
    * May not direct user attention to the ads via arrows or other graphical gimmicks<br />
    * May not place misleading images alongside individual ads<br />
    * May not promote sites displaying ads through unsolicited mass emails or unwanted advertisements on third-party websites<br />
    * May not compensate users for viewing ads or performing searches, or  promise compensation to a third party for such behavior<br />
    * May not place misleading labels above Google ad units &#8211; for instance,  ads may be labeled &ldquo;Sponsored Links&rdquo; but not &ldquo;Favorite Sites&rdquo; </p>
</blockquote>
<p>When I asked Shopping.com about this, they said that their &ldquo;relationship with AdSense is confidential.&rdquo; </p>
<p>Does  this mean that Google AdSense sanctioned this test? I figured that this  was just a programmer error, but that&rsquo;s obviously not the response that  I got.</p>
<p>So I&rsquo;ll put it to my readers:<br />
  1.  Is this a violation of <a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=48182">Google&rsquo;s AdSense Policies</a>?<br />
  2. Is this a good user experience or is this just tricking the users  into clicking on a link. The SEE SITE buttons Shopping.com posted next to the AdSense ads are the same ones they use for product listing results:<br />
<img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/2126785919_f578401d37.jpg" alt="shopping.com adsense" width="470" height="221"/></p>
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		<title>PepperJam moves in on Shopping.com Territory</title>
		<link>http://comparisonengines.com/2007/12/17/pepperjam-moves-in-on-shoppingcom-territory/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a search for Ugg boots, I found the following ad: I thought I was clicking on a Shopping.com ad. Instead, I arrived at Shogging.com, which is owned by the Pepperjam Network. So what is Shogging.com? From the about us page: The Shogging.com Comparison Shopping Blog embraces our dynamic e-commerce tradition and is powered by [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=719&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a search for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS177US232&amp;q=ugg+boots&amp;btnG=Search">Ugg boots</a>, I found the following ad:<br />
    <img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/2118266913_26cb49e11b.jpg" alt="Shogging.com" width="243" height="83"/></p>
<p>I  thought I was clicking on a Shopping.com ad. Instead, I arrived at  Shogging.com, which is owned by the Pepperjam Network. So what is  Shogging.com? From the about us page:</p>
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<p>The  Shogging.com Comparison Shopping Blog embraces our dynamic e-commerce  tradition and is powered by the most cutting-edge tools available,  including applications such as AJAX and Python, which afford an  integrated e-commerce, search, and blogging experience. Imagine that &#8211;  the ability to shop and blog (SHOG) within the same user experience &#8211;  it&rsquo;s never been done before and Pepperjam is proud to have pioneered  the technology that allows you, the user, to experience the ultimate in  shopping and blogging!</p>
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<p>Shogging.com has been  around for a while, but I just noticed it because of the PPC ad. Just  goes to show that there&rsquo;s still potential for arbitragers. It&rsquo;ll be  interesting to see if Pepperjam can pull this off. Conventional wisdom  would say no. Shogging.com has to pay the PPC fee and then has to rely  on the merchant to convert. With high PPC fees (for all the reasons the  shopping engines have high PPC fees), it&rsquo;s going to be hard to make  this a profitable venture. However, one industry insider did point out  to me that Shogging.com gets well above even &lsquo;Super-Affiliate&rsquo; rates  because it actually manages the affiliate programs for many merchants.</p>
<p>A look at potential numbers:<br />
  Average CPC for Shogging.com on Google Adwords: $0.35<br />
  # of clicks: 100<br />
  Cost: $35.00<br />
  Click-through Rate to Merchant: 40%<br />
  Click-throughs to Merchant: 40<br />
  Conversion Rate on Merchant&rsquo;s Site: 3%<br />
  Total Conversions: 1.2<br />
  Average Order Value: $75<br />
  Total Revenue: $90.00<br />
  Commission rate for Shogging.com: 17.5% (being generous, I think)<br />
  Commission for Shogging.com: $15.75<br />
  Profit (Loss): ($19.25)</p>
<p>Now  there are a lot of guesstimates here, and I&rsquo;m not taking into  consideration clicks on Google AdSense ads and potential organic  traffic, but play around with the numbers, and you&rsquo;ll see that it&rsquo;s  going to be hard to make this work. </p>
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		<title>Shopping.com &#8211; There are always two sides to a story</title>
		<link>http://comparisonengines.com/2007/11/16/shoppingcom-there-are-always-two-sides-to-a-story/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I said last Friday, Shopping.com is no longer not accepting new merchants until January 1, 2008. I appreciate Shopping.com explaining their side of the story to me earlier this week. I&#8217;m not always the easiest person to work with and the openness Shopping.com executives have demonstrated over the last couple months has been a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=702&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said last Friday, <a href="http://www.comparisonengines.com/2007/11/09/shoppingcom-tales-from-the-absurd/">Shopping.com is no longer not accepting new merchants until January 1, 2008</a>.</p>
<p>I  appreciate Shopping.com explaining their side of the story to me  earlier this week. I&rsquo;m not always the easiest person to work with and  the openness Shopping.com executives have demonstrated over the last  couple months has been a breath of fresh air compared to my previous  dealings with the company.</p>
<p>According to Shopping.com, the  company is investing its resources into its existing merchant base and  into customer service. They are prepared for the holiday shopping  season and doing a lot of things to help their merchants like providing  a monthly email, conducting webinars, and even launching live chat  (coming soon). Shopping.com wants the most productive relationship  possible with its current merchants. </p>
<p>The reason I felt sick  hearing the news that Shopping.com is no longer accepting new merchants  is because I see another side to the story. I&rsquo;m not saying that my side  of the story is correct. In fact, I could be completely wrong, but it&rsquo;s  what makes most sense to me.</p>
<p>So here&rsquo;s my view, <strong>which Shopping.com flat out rejected</strong>:</p>
<p>Shopping.com  dropped the ball. Plain and simple. Could you imagine Google Adwords  telling people tomorrow that it can&rsquo;t accept any new advertisers? NO.  It&rsquo;s unimaginable. That would mean that Google was not prepared  technologically or otherwise.</p>
<p>Shopping.com should have been  prepared for a holiday rush and it wasn&rsquo;t. I applaud the company for  taking care of its current merchant base, but cutting off new merchants  just says that it (systems? technology? manpower?) can barely handle  its current merchants (and thus the support emails that say to expect a  reply in 5-7 days).</p>
<p>Just as the company has made recent  strides to improve the quality/cost effectiveness of leads its  merchants receive, the merchant management process (sign up, data feed  management, account management, etc.) will also be addressed. Still,  this is an embarrassing setback.</p>
<p>As for the financial impact,  because Shopping.com is such a tiny part of eBay, cutting off new  merchants isn&rsquo;t going to really do anything. Furthermore, Shopping.com  makes a significant percentage of its revenue from advertising sales  and Google AdSense and that revenue is not going to dry up overnight &#8211;  in fact, I&rsquo;m sure ad sales is booming.</p>
<p>As for raising its initial deposit to $700, I feel that Shopping.com doesn&rsquo;t care about the smaller merchants. <strong>This is also a theory that Shopping.com flat out rejected</strong>.  Now I&rsquo;m a bit more practical here, there&rsquo;s sometimes significant cost  involved with getting a smaller merchant up and running. I understand  this because we deal with it at <a href="http://www.singlefeed.com">SingleFeed</a> every day.  But if you lower the barrier to entry in terms of cost, the potential upside is huge. </p>
<p>My favorite phrase is <em>metrics oriented marketing</em>,  what the web enables you to do: run tests, track and make decisions  based on actual data. By increasing the minimum initial deposit to $700  (from $50), you cut off tens of thousands of merchants from ever  considering running a test with you. If the service is good, you should  offer merchants a trial at little or no cost because the proof will be  in the results.</p>
<p>But what do I know? I&rsquo;m just a blogger. I&rsquo;d  rather take into consideration what the other shopping engines have for  initial deposit requirements:</p>
<p>Google Product Search &#8211; Free<br />
  Become &#8211; $25<br />
  Yahoo! Shopping &#8211; $50<br />
  Shopzilla &#8211; $50<br />
  Pronto &#8211; $50<br />
  PriceGrabber (Soft Goods) &#8211; $50<br />
  Smarter.com &#8211; $100<br />
  NexTag &#8211; $150<br />
  Shopping.com &#8211; $700</p>
<p>And  then there&rsquo;s Google Adwords @ $5 and Yahoo Search Marketing @ $30.  While these guys don&rsquo;t have to worry about the dreaded data feed, it&rsquo;s  important to note that PPC advertising on Adwords and YSM is the  standard. That&rsquo;s what everyone knows and loves. So the shopping engines  should be somewhat in line with these minimum required deposits in  order to effectively convert potential advertisers into paying clients.</p>
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		<title>Shopping.com &#8211; Tales from the Absurd</title>
		<link>http://comparisonengines.com/2007/11/09/shoppingcom-tales-from-the-absurd/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve learned not to post in depth when I&#8217;m mad. Well, I&#8217;m extending that to not posting in depth when I&#8217;m feeling sick. As SingleFeed friend, Miguel Salcido writes out on the eVisibility blog, Shopping.com is no longer accepting new merchants: It just boggles my mind when merchants are not prepared for their busiest times [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=comparisonengines.com&amp;blog=4991802&amp;post=701&amp;subd=comparisonengines&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&rsquo;ve learned not to post in depth when I&rsquo;m mad.<br />
  Well, I&rsquo;m extending that to not posting in depth when I&rsquo;m feeling sick.</p>
<p>As SingleFeed friend, <a href="http://www.evisibility.com/Miguel-Salcido.html">Miguel Salcido</a> writes out on the <a href="http://blog.evisibility.com/shoppingcom-does-not-want-your-money/">eVisibility blog</a>, <strong>Shopping.com is no longer accepting new merchants</strong>:</p>
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<p>It  just boggles my mind when merchants are not prepared for their busiest  times of the year. But for one of the most established and well backed  CSE in the world it is just disgusting. They will lose out on so much  money this season because of this. Although they have been making many  efforts to improve their program lately, this is pretty terrible.  Honestly, the traffic from Shopping.com has not been performing too  well for the handful of shopping data feeds that I run and submit. And  I also hear that they are now requiring a $700 minimum deposit to get  started with them, that is ridiculous! I remember last year they could  not accept one of the credit cards, can&rsquo;t remember if it was Visa or  MasterCard, but it was a big pain in the but since the merchant I was  submitting did not have another card to put it on.</p>
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<p><a href="https://merchant.shopping.com/enroll/app?service=page/PartnerWelcome"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2148/1939556018_0ca2b2fefa.jpg" alt="Shopping.com merchant" width="470" height="271"/></a></p>
<p>Add to this the fact that Shopping.com <strong>increased their minimum required initial deposit to $700</strong>, automated emails from customer support say to <strong>expect a response within 7 days</strong> (thanks for the tip, L!), and the company is <strong>giving away the farm</strong> in the UK to try to get customers back, and I actually feel sick to my stomach.</p>
<p>I&rsquo;ll  just stick to the facts for now and hold off on commenting until I&rsquo;ve  talked with SDC directly. I really feel sick. I love this industry.  What&rsquo;s going on? </p>
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